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                    MNODE15C.ZIP is written and maintained by:

                    Allen Woolley, Sysop Moonlit Knight BBS

                          

                           (408)-244-3459 v.32bis

                           (408)-244-1096 HST DS

                             aceofwands@aol.com

 

I will ONLY answer your questions via Email on the following system/networks:

My BBS, the Wildnet DESQview conference, the Mustang BBS in their DESQView

conference or via Internet.

 

Please do NOT attempt to contact me on the voice phone!  I don't have the

time to do tech support for the entire planet.  THANX!

 

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All files and text in this .ZIP file are Copyright 1992-1994 by Allen Woolley.

Permission is given to copy, exchange and duplicate all the information in

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Overview:

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Below are some ideas that may help fix the problems you're having. Some

folks have had good success with these, so take your time making the

suggested tweaks.  You know your system far better than I, so please

make sure the recommendations below "make sense" for your BBS before

trying them out.

 

Fair Warning:

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There is advanced techno-geeking and propeller head beanie polishing

below. If you don't understand the procedures as written, there's not a

whole lot I can or will do to help.  I lack the resources to teach the

entire planet what hardware interrupts are and why having a buss mouse

set to IRQ4 blows away your COM1: modem whenever you move it. Make a

hard copy of this and stick it in your local DOS guru's fax modem with a

not so subtle plea for help if the above reads like greek to you.

 

 

What to do First:

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The order I have listed these suggestions in is arbitrary.  It is the

order I happen to use to trouble shoot problems. Read everything

first and do them in whatever order you like.

 

Does the system run fine in DOS only?

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I can't stress this one enough:  Your BBS *MUST* run Error Free outside

of DESQview before you attempt to run it multinode under DESQview. 

 

If the beastie is broken in DOS, it's going to Reeeeeallly broken under

DESQview.  Debug your .BAT's, MAKEWILD, WCMODEM, WCFAX, WCPRO, DOORs,

third party utilities and whatever other code that touches your system

BEFORE starting your system up under DESQview.

 

You can test each node configuration out by simply using the appropriate

NODEx.BAT to start that node up under DOS.

 

For example, to test node 3, simply run NODE3.BAT instead of NODE1.BAT

under DOS, and you will be able to de-bug your node 3 outside of DESQview.

 

I recommend that if you are indeed having problems, you start up each node

under DOS as described above and look for problems.

 

Remember to check your Error Logs!  Do a:

 

C:\WC30>dir *.log

 

 Volume in drive C is FUGAZI IV

 Volume Serial Number is 0000-0000

 Directory of C:\WC30

 

ERROR    LOG        71,519 05-19-94  10:38p

        2 file(s)         71,519 bytes

                      50,896,896 bytes free

 

You'll probably see stuff like:

 

SYSTEM CRASH - Node: 1

 - During: Error closing file C:\WC30\NODEINFO.DAT

 - DESC  : Invalid file handle. Version: 3.90M

 - When  : Error occured at 23:01 on 04/16/94

SYSTEM CRASH - Node: 10

 - During: Error closing file C:\WC30\NODEINFO.DAT

 - DESC  : Invalid file handle. Version: 3.90M

 - When  : Error occured at 23:13 on 04/16/94

Node 2: Modem did not hangup. Delay set to: 2000

 

You very well may need Mustang tech support to help you figure out what

is going on.  Don't be afraid to call their tech support up!  Mustang

really does have good support techs, and a single 10 minute call to MSI

can save you untold amounts of hair pulling and head banging.

 

Does the Hardware REALLY work?

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Assuming you have 16550 UARTs (See step #6 to verify this) in your

serial ports, and everything else is functional hardware wise,

(things like verifying the modem is configured for RTS/CTS handshaking

and ALL the pins are WIRED in your RS-232 cable) here are some things to

look at:

 

1) Use MFT after the system has been run up fully and then take it back

   to DOS.

 

IE:

a) Start the multinode BBS

b) Take it back down after a few seconds and quit DV entirely

c) Get a DIR of any floppy

d) Print anything to the printer (if installed)

e) Finally start up any VGA resolution program if you have VGA, then

   exit back to DOS.

 

The idea is to fully exercise all installed ports and video resolutions.

 

Use the QEMM Analysis tool to find problem areas. In particular,

especially look for additional eXclusions that QEMM may recommend.

 

Your QEMM >v7.04< or higher Analysis screen should look like this:

(you of course have paid for and are running the latest version, yes?)

 

Overview   Type   Accessed   Analysis   Memory

ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

 

                           Ü

     n=0123 4567 89AB CDEF Û        O = OK

  0n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        X = Exclude

  1n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        I = Include

  2n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û

  3n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß

  4n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        WARNING: These

  5n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        results may not

  6n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        be valid if you

  7n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        haven't followed

  8n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        the analysis       <= You

  9n00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        procedure as       <= Better

  An00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        described in the   <= BELIEVE

  Bn00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        QEMM manual!       <= This!!!

  Cn00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û        ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß

  Dn00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û

  En00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û          Press F3 for

  Fn00 OOOO OOOO OOOO OOOO Û            List Mode

                           Û

 

If your not getting this screen, something needs tweaking, or you didn't

follow the procedure in the manual (of which I gave you the VERY brief

version of above in #1).

 

2) Re-run OPTIMIZE like this:  OPTIMIZE /RF (see that darn manual for

the more info on the /RF command).  In my experience, it's more reliable

than the normal way in spotting conflicts.

 

3) If your running out of memory, try using VIDRAM to pump up the available

amount of memory for your system. This works best for VGA card users, but

CGA and EGA get some extra K's out of it too.

 

4) If you have enabled the QEMM Stealth option, disable it.  Re-run

OPTIMIZE.

 

5) Run a bare bones system TSR wise: SHARE and SCSI/CD ROM drivers ONLY.

 

6) Use the MSD program that ships with Windows (\WINDOWS\MSD.EXE) and

with DOS v6.x (\DOS\MSD.EXE) to take a "tour" of your system.  Take your

time and try to "grock" everything MSD is trying to tell you, particularly

the hardware interrupts and UART tests.

 

7) Add the QEMM386.SYS NOSH parameter to your QEMM config.sys line.  You

MUST re-run OPTIMIZE after doing this.

 

8) Shut down ALL your DOORs.  Let the system run a day or two, then turn

them back on ONE at a time.  Leave 48 hours for the system to crap out,

then turn on another DOOR.  Doors written in QuickBASIC can hose up more

stuff than you can imagine...

 

9) There are other, more complex things you can do (like loading a

fossil driver like X00.SYS or BNU, tweaking ISA wait states in your BIOS,

playing games with external caches, etc...), but for now start with

these.

 

Implement these suggestions one at a time, and see if things get better.

Please remember I am *not* Quarterdeck! There are fires that I can't

put out. Pleased don't send me hate mail if stuff doesn't't work out

for you.  The above is a list of SUGGESTIONS, not a "bible".  Your

milage may vary.

 

 

Buggy Dell's:

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Some Dell mother boards with built in COM ports flat out fail *Without*

X00.SYS loaded, and a certain subset of these, even X00 may not fix.  Be

SURE to pay the man if you use X00.SYS to fix a brain dead mother board.

 

There ARE hosed mother boards out there from "reputable dealers" that no

matter what the hell rope you pull on will flat out not multitask under

DV. You have my sympathies and hopes for a winning Lotto ticket if this

turns out to be the case for you.

 

Good luck!